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#1 2021-04-26 20:33:17

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An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

I need someone to explain the value of an autograph. I never understood why people want a famous person's signature on a piece of paper. What is that paper going to do for anyone? I definitely don't seek or desire an autograph from anyone famous or not. I just think people are silly. You will never see me standing on line for hours to ask a famous, rich person who does not care about me in any way for his or her signature on a piece of paper. Sorry but it's not happening.

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#2 2021-04-26 22:19:34

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

In one of the dictionaries :

noun
1. a person's own signature.
2. something written in a person's own hand, as a manuscript or letter.

adjective
3. written by a person's own hand.
4. containing autographs:

verb (used with object)
5. to write one's name on or in; sign:
6. to write with one's own hand.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

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#3 2021-05-04 18:47:37

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:

In one of the dictionaries :

noun
1. a person's own signature.
2. something written in a person's own hand, as a manuscript or letter.

adjective
3. written by a person's own hand.
4. containing autographs:

verb (used with object)
5. to write one's name on or in; sign:
6. to write with one's own hand.

You did not answer my question.

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#4 2021-05-04 23:39:20

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

I have given one of the dictionary meanings. What more do you expect? I cannot anticipate what you have in your mind.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#5 2021-05-05 14:52:16

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:

I have given one of the dictionary meanings. What more do you expect? I cannot anticipate what you have in your mind.

The entire thread is simply to point out the ridiculousness of asking for an autograph.

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#6 2021-05-05 15:08:46

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

I have given one of the dictionary meanings. What more do you expect? I cannot anticipate what you have in your mind.

The entire thread is simply to point out the ridiculousness of asking for an autograph.

An autograph is a person's own handwriting or signature. The word autograph comes from Ancient Greek, and can mean more specifically:

a) a manuscript written by the author of its content. In this meaning the term autograph can often be used interchangeably with holograph.
b) a celebrity's handwritten signature. Autograph collecting is the activity of collecting such autographs.

This is the definition, for many people in the world.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#7 2021-05-05 19:22:13

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

I have given one of the dictionary meanings. What more do you expect? I cannot anticipate what you have in your mind.

The entire thread is simply to point out the ridiculousness of asking for an autograph.

An autograph is a person's own handwriting or signature. The word autograph comes from Ancient Greek, and can mean more specifically:

a) a manuscript written by the author of its content. In this meaning the term autograph can often be used interchangeably with holograph.
b) a celebrity's handwritten signature. Autograph collecting is the activity of collecting such autographs.

This is the definition, for many people in the world.

Let me put it this way:

I WILL REQUEST FOR AN AUTOGRAPH AFTER THE RAPTURE. TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF THAT, IF YOU CAN.

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#8 2021-05-06 04:54:04

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:

The entire thread is simply to point out the ridiculousness of asking for an autograph.

An autograph is a person's own handwriting or signature. The word autograph comes from Ancient Greek, and can mean more specifically:

a) a manuscript written by the author of its content. In this meaning the term autograph can often be used interchangeably with holograph.
b) a celebrity's handwritten signature. Autograph collecting is the activity of collecting such autographs.

This is the definition, for many people in the world.

Let me put it this way:

I WILL REQUEST FOR AN AUTOGRAPH AFTER THE RAPTURE. TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF THAT, IF YOU CAN.

I am unable to do so. Be clear.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#9 2021-05-06 10:43:14

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

An autograph is a person's own handwriting or signature. The word autograph comes from Ancient Greek, and can mean more specifically:

a) a manuscript written by the author of its content. In this meaning the term autograph can often be used interchangeably with holograph.
b) a celebrity's handwritten signature. Autograph collecting is the activity of collecting such autographs.

This is the definition, for many people in the world.

Let me put it this way:

I WILL REQUEST FOR AN AUTOGRAPH AFTER THE RAPTURE. TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF THAT, IF YOU CAN.


I am unable to do so. Be clear.

Let me put it this way:

I will ask someone for an autograph when elephants climb trees.

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#10 2021-05-06 16:27:06

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:

Let me put it this way:

I WILL REQUEST FOR AN AUTOGRAPH AFTER THE RAPTURE. TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF THAT, IF YOU CAN.


I am unable to do so. Be clear.

Let me put it this way:

I will ask someone for an autograph when elephants climb trees.

That is a futile exercise. Elephants climbing trees is highly improbable. The probability is close to zero.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#11 2021-05-06 18:38:50

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

I am unable to do so. Be clear.

Let me put it this way:

I will ask someone for an autograph when elephants climb trees.

That is a futile exercise. Elephants climbing trees is highly improbable. The probability is close to zero.

Sorry but you are confused. This is not a math question. I am basically saying that asking someone for an autograph is really, really stupid because there is no value; nothing is gained. Understand?

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#12 2021-05-06 20:41:30

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:

Let me put it this way:

I will ask someone for an autograph when elephants climb trees.

That is a futile exercise. Elephants climbing trees is highly improbable. The probability is close to zero.

Sorry but you are confused. This is not a math question. I am basically saying that asking someone for an autograph is really, really stupid because there is no value; nothing is gained. Understand?

No, I am clear. You gave the analogy of elephants climbing trees.

However, talking of autographs, I have discussed at length of definition of autographs. Any further explanation is not required.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#13 2021-05-06 23:48:56

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

That is a futile exercise. Elephants climbing trees is highly improbable. The probability is close to zero.

Sorry but you are confused. This is not a math question. I am basically saying that asking someone for an autograph is really, really stupid because there is no value; nothing is gained. Understand?

No, I am clear. You gave the analogy of elephants climbing trees.

However, talking of autographs, I have discussed at length of definition of autographs. Any further explanation is not required.

Mr. Ganesh,

By saying that I will request an autograph when elephants climb trees means I am NEVER going to ask for an autograph. We both know that elephants cannot climb trees. Thus, the conclusion here is that I will not request an autograph because it's really, really, really, stupid to do so.

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#14 2021-05-11 06:14:18

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

I feel like the people who have an autograph have a piece of the person they admire


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#15 2021-05-11 10:50:41

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

Not Dav wrote:

I feel like the people who have an autograph have a piece of the person they admire

Ok. I see nothing with this but I myself choose not to request an autograph unless  the piece of paper will put money in my bank account.

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#16 2021-05-11 13:35:20

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

I had been an autograph-hunter in my late teens, I have taken autographs of eminent sports persons.

A prized possession!


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#17 2021-05-11 14:23:06

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:

I had been an autograph-hunter in my late teens, I have taken autographs of eminent sports persons.

A prized possession!

To each his own.

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#18 2021-05-11 14:40:09

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

I had been an autograph-hunter in my late teens, I have taken autographs of eminent sports persons.

A prized possession!

To each his own.

True! A little later in my life, I collected pictures of actors!

I took autographs of film artistes!

And after around 25, priorities shifted.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#19 2021-05-11 17:32:31

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

I had been an autograph-hunter in my late teens, I have taken autographs of eminent sports persons.

A prized possession!

To each his own.

True! A little later in my life, I collected pictures of actors!

I took autographs of film artistes!

And after around 25, priorities shifted.

It was a hobby to you.

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#20 2021-05-11 17:36:49

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:

To each his own.

True! A little later in my life, I collected pictures of actors!

I took autographs of film artistes!

And after around 25, priorities shifted.

It was a hobby to you.

Yes, it was a hobby at that point of time.

But, as we grow, priorities shift.

Fortunately, learning has been a top priority.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#21 2021-05-11 17:52:09

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

True! A little later in my life, I collected pictures of actors!

I took autographs of film artistes!

And after around 25, priorities shifted.

It was a hobby to you.

Yes, it was a hobby at that point of time.

But, as we grow, priorities shift.

Fortunately, learning has been a top priority.

Math is a hobby for me at this stage in my life. I don't think I'll ever stop learning new mathematical ideas.

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#22 2021-05-11 17:56:00

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:

It was a hobby to you.

Yes, it was a hobby at that point of time.

But, as we grow, priorities shift.

Fortunately, learning has been a top priority.

Math is a hobby for me at this stage in my life. I don't think I'll ever stop learning new mathematical ideas.

Mathematics is a hobby as well as bread and butter.

Without it, I would have never been a complete person.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#23 2021-05-11 19:33:05

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

Yes, it was a hobby at that point of time.

But, as we grow, priorities shift.

Fortunately, learning has been a top priority.

Math is a hobby for me at this stage in my life. I don't think I'll ever stop learning new mathematical ideas.

Mathematics is a hobby as well as bread and butter.

Without it, I would have never been a complete person.

So, are you a math teacher or simply a math enthusiast?

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#24 2021-05-11 19:41:59

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:

Math is a hobby for me at this stage in my life. I don't think I'll ever stop learning new mathematical ideas.

Mathematics is a hobby as well as bread and butter.

Without it, I would have never been a complete person.

So, are you a math teacher or simply a math enthusiast?

I did take tuitions for middle school students (home tuition) as an amateur.

When I said Mathematics has provided me bread and butter, I meant I got a good job only because of my math and science background.


It appears to me that if one wants to make progress in mathematics, one should study the masters and not the pupils. - Niels Henrik Abel.

Nothing is better than reading and gaining more and more knowledge - Stephen William Hawking.

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#25 2021-05-11 22:24:41

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Re: An Autograph Means Nothing To Me

ganesh wrote:
mathland wrote:
ganesh wrote:

Mathematics is a hobby as well as bread and butter.

Without it, I would have never been a complete person.

So, are you a math teacher or simply a math enthusiast?

I did take tuitions for middle school students (home tuition) as an amateur.

When I said Mathematics has provided me bread and butter, I meant I got a good job only because of my math and science background.

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