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#1 2008-01-21 07:21:12

tony123
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3/5

If

then

(a) x<y        ( B)  x> y        (C)x=y          (D)noon of these

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#2 2008-01-21 08:04:56

Daniel123
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Re: 3/5

(a) can be true; for example x can be 3 and y can be 5
(b) can also be true (but then (a) obviously wouldn't); for example, x can be -3 and y can be -5
(c) cannot be true
(d) cannot be true, as (a) or (b) can be true

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#3 2008-01-21 08:23:36

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Re: 3/5

I interpret (D) as "It is impossible to say that any previous statement is true", as opposed to "The previous statements are not true".

If it was the second case then you could immediately tell it was false without reading the question, because one of x<y, x=y and x>y will always be true, regardless of what x and y are.

The correct answer is (D) by that interpretation, because as Daniel has shown, it's possible for (A) or (B) to be true (and so we don't know which is).


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#4 2008-01-21 10:18:30

MathsIsFun
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Re: 3/5

Yes, I would also say (D) because you cannot rely on (A) being true, neither can you rely on (B).


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#5 2008-01-21 10:43:11

Daniel123
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Re: 3/5

mathsyperson wrote:

I interpret (D) as "It is impossible to say that any previous statement is true", as opposed to "The previous statements are not true".

I would (now) also say (D). smile

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#6 2008-01-23 01:51:10

Jai Ganesh
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Re: 3/5

I too agree. (d) is the best option.
It has not been said whether a and b belong to set of natural numbers, integers or rational numbers.


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#7 2008-01-23 05:06:54

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Re: 3/5

Fair point, if we're dealing with naturals then the answer would be (A).
Tony's puzzles tend to work with reals though.


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